Mustafa Suleyman: The AGI Race Is Fake, Building Safe Superintelligence & the Agentic Economy | #216

Get access to metatrends 10+ years before anyone else - https://qr.diamandis.com/metatrends Mustafa Suleyman is the CEO of Microsoft AI (https://microsoft.ai/) Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified Chapters: 00:00 - The Evolution of AI and Microsoft's Role 09:12 - Economic Benchmarks for AI Agents 18:37 - The Future of AI in Science and Engineering 27:54 - AI Alignment and Containment Strategies 36:42 - Anthropomorphism and AI Personhood 46:10 - The Role of AI in Government and Society – My companies: Apply to Dave's and my new fund: https://qr.diamandis.com/linkventureslanding Go to Blitzy to book a free demo and start building today: https://qr.diamandis.com/blitzy Grab dinner with MOONSHOT listeners: https://moonshots.dnnr.io/ _ Connect with Peter: X: https://qr.diamandis.com/twitter Connect with Dave: X: https://x.com/davidblundin LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-blundin/ Connect with Alex Web: https://www.alexwg.org LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwg/ X: https://x.com/alexwg Email: alexwg@alexwg.org Connect with Mustafa X: https://x.com/mustafasuleyman Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mustafa-suleyman/ Listen to MOONSHOTS: Apple: https://qr.diamandis.com/applepodcast Spotify: https://qr.diamandis.com/spotifypodcast – *Recorded on December 5th, 2025 *The views expressed by me and all guests are personal opinions and do not constitute Financial, Medical, or Legal advice.